WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.255 --> 00:00:16.055 All right. 2 00:00:16.055 --> 00:00:17.575 Good afternoon, everyone, 3 00:00:17.575 --> 00:00:21.895 and thanks for joining today for episode nine here of 4 00:00:21.895 --> 00:00:25.495 our Regulatory Updates for Public Safety webinar series. 5 00:00:25.495 --> 00:00:27.095 So it's been a couple months. 6 00:00:27.095 --> 00:00:30.970 The last webinar I did was back in March. 7 00:00:31.090 --> 00:00:32.290 And at that time, 8 00:00:32.290 --> 00:00:36.010 we were talking about multidrone approvals and operations. 9 00:00:36.130 --> 00:00:39.770 At that time, the waivers had just started getting issued. 10 00:00:39.810 --> 00:00:43.615 And since then, as kind of just a side note to start the webinar, 11 00:00:43.615 --> 00:00:47.055 we've got about sixty agencies now with approvals, 12 00:00:47.055 --> 00:00:49.415 which is awesome to see. 13 00:00:49.455 --> 00:00:52.415 And even better is many of those agencies are now starting 14 00:00:52.415 --> 00:00:56.970 to incorporate multi drone operations in just day to day ops. 15 00:00:56.970 --> 00:01:01.850 So it's been awesome to see that and see that kind of new 16 00:01:01.850 --> 00:01:02.970 concept growing, 17 00:01:02.970 --> 00:01:06.050 but that's not what we're here to talk about today. 18 00:01:06.490 --> 00:01:11.045 Today is going to be about kind of choosing a path and the 19 00:01:11.045 --> 00:01:14.645 differences and similarities between Part ninety one and 20 00:01:14.645 --> 00:01:16.445 Part one hundred seven. 21 00:01:17.925 --> 00:01:21.845 And really the focus of the webinar here today 22 00:01:21.845 --> 00:01:25.005 will be on these public safety waivers 23 00:01:25.080 --> 00:01:29.560 which are mostly streamlined at this point and how these, you know, 24 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:33.160 today there's essentially a waiver for both regulations. 25 00:01:33.160 --> 00:01:35.560 There's a public safety streamlined waiver for Part 26 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.560 ninety one and for Part one hundred seven. 27 00:01:38.685 --> 00:01:41.965 And so we're basically gonna just take the hour to kind of 28 00:01:41.965 --> 00:01:44.285 talk about how they're the same, how they're different, 29 00:01:44.285 --> 00:01:47.245 so things like what are the eligibility requirements, 30 00:01:47.245 --> 00:01:48.925 how do you get them, 31 00:01:48.925 --> 00:01:51.405 what are the similarities and differences in the actual 32 00:01:51.405 --> 00:01:54.300 approvals themselves, and like what that might mean for 33 00:01:54.300 --> 00:01:56.740 your actual operations. 34 00:01:56.940 --> 00:02:00.060 And then there's we'll talk about some other additional 35 00:02:00.060 --> 00:02:01.940 kind of considerations. 36 00:02:02.060 --> 00:02:05.020 These would be extra approvals kind of on top but things like 37 00:02:05.020 --> 00:02:08.180 airspace authorizations to flying zero grids, 38 00:02:08.345 --> 00:02:11.505 multi drone, we will come back to that as well. 39 00:02:12.665 --> 00:02:17.785 So without further ado, let's kind of get into the material here. 40 00:02:17.785 --> 00:02:19.625 But first, 41 00:02:19.625 --> 00:02:22.665 I just kind of want to have a little fun and do kind of test 42 00:02:22.665 --> 00:02:26.170 you all to see see who's watching. 43 00:02:26.170 --> 00:02:29.130 So I'm gonna kind of put up a 44 00:02:29.130 --> 00:02:33.770 graphic, two graphics, and I I'll give you, like, fifteen seconds. 45 00:02:33.770 --> 00:02:36.250 I just kinda want you all to look and see if you can spot 46 00:02:36.250 --> 00:02:37.730 the differences here. 47 00:02:38.565 --> 00:02:42.245 So let's go with the first one and I'm just going to kind of 48 00:02:42.245 --> 00:02:47.165 count the ten in my head and then we'll reveal the answer. 49 00:03:00.460 --> 00:03:04.460 Okay so at first glance it's kind of like the Spider Man 50 00:03:04.460 --> 00:03:06.145 meme like wait. 51 00:03:06.145 --> 00:03:09.745 These are both Kawas actually. They're both waivers. 52 00:03:09.745 --> 00:03:11.825 They both look the same cover letter wise. 53 00:03:11.825 --> 00:03:14.105 They're both signed by the FAA. 54 00:03:14.705 --> 00:03:16.385 But this one, hopefully, 55 00:03:16.385 --> 00:03:18.785 you kinda spotted that the difference here is one is a 56 00:03:18.785 --> 00:03:20.110 part ninety one waiver. 57 00:03:20.110 --> 00:03:22.190 One is a Part one hundred seven waiver. 58 00:03:22.190 --> 00:03:24.510 So that's really the main difference. 59 00:03:24.510 --> 00:03:27.310 There's also a small difference in the number of provisions 60 00:03:27.310 --> 00:03:28.990 each waiver has, 61 00:03:28.990 --> 00:03:32.430 and we'll talk more about that later about like why those 62 00:03:32.430 --> 00:03:33.750 numbers are different. 63 00:03:34.125 --> 00:03:36.205 But yeah, one is a part ninety one waiver, 64 00:03:36.205 --> 00:03:37.645 one's a part one hundred seven waiver. 65 00:03:37.645 --> 00:03:41.205 So that's the main difference here. So let's do another one. 66 00:03:41.805 --> 00:03:44.725 Let's kind of count to ten again in my head here. 67 00:03:55.470 --> 00:03:55.950 Alright. 68 00:03:55.950 --> 00:03:58.670 I probably should have had a little live poll going, 69 00:03:58.670 --> 00:04:00.590 but we just want to keep it simple today. 70 00:04:00.590 --> 00:04:03.990 So here is the difference for this one. 71 00:04:05.265 --> 00:04:09.345 So mostly the same verbiage here and this is one of the 72 00:04:09.345 --> 00:04:13.025 provisions out of the Part one hundred seven and ninety one waivers. 73 00:04:13.025 --> 00:04:16.545 One kind of uses the term responsible person and then it 74 00:04:16.545 --> 00:04:18.905 speaks to Part one hundred seven regulations. 75 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:21.860 One uses the term operator and speaks to part ninety one 76 00:04:21.860 --> 00:04:23.220 regulations. 77 00:04:23.220 --> 00:04:27.180 Everything else is identical though between the two really. 78 00:04:28.420 --> 00:04:32.700 Alright so let's do one more here. 79 00:04:43.675 --> 00:04:45.355 Okay. And this one's a little bit shorter. 80 00:04:45.355 --> 00:04:47.675 So this one's kind of a trick question. 81 00:04:47.675 --> 00:04:50.670 Another meme. I like the office. 82 00:04:50.670 --> 00:04:52.750 It's kind of the corporate needs you to find the 83 00:04:52.750 --> 00:04:54.510 difference between the two and they're the same. 84 00:04:54.510 --> 00:04:56.110 And I realize my head's blocking that, 85 00:04:56.110 --> 00:04:57.910 but they're the same provision. 86 00:04:58.110 --> 00:04:59.390 Number is different, 87 00:04:59.390 --> 00:05:02.750 but that's effectively a meaningless difference at this point. 88 00:05:02.750 --> 00:05:04.030 The verbiage is the same. 89 00:05:04.030 --> 00:05:08.585 You have to have FCC approved transmitters flowing under these waivers. 90 00:05:08.585 --> 00:05:11.145 And this screenshot is one is Part one hundred seven, 91 00:05:11.145 --> 00:05:12.825 one is Part ninety one again. 92 00:05:12.825 --> 00:05:13.905 So 93 00:05:14.585 --> 00:05:17.545 throughout the hour here ahead of us, 94 00:05:17.545 --> 00:05:20.990 I kind of want to just throw out an overarching theme to 95 00:05:20.990 --> 00:05:23.710 start and that will kind of frame this all for you, for everybody. 96 00:05:23.710 --> 00:05:26.990 So the difference between Part ninety one and Part one hundred 97 00:05:26.990 --> 00:05:30.190 seven public safety waivers is there's actually more 98 00:05:30.190 --> 00:05:32.205 similarities than differences. 99 00:05:32.205 --> 00:05:33.885 So kind of keep that in mind going forward. 100 00:05:33.885 --> 00:05:36.765 I'm going to kind of I will like outline some differences 101 00:05:36.765 --> 00:05:40.605 and kind of technicalities between the two but in the big 102 00:05:40.605 --> 00:05:44.325 picture these waivers are very, very similar. 103 00:05:46.150 --> 00:05:49.830 Okay, and then I'll kind of just spoil the 104 00:05:49.830 --> 00:05:52.550 question as well at the front here again to just kind of help 105 00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:56.150 everybody frame this as I go through things in more detail. 106 00:05:56.150 --> 00:06:00.310 So if you're an agency kind of trying to decide like 107 00:06:00.310 --> 00:06:04.835 which should I do or what's the benefits of one over the other, 108 00:06:05.915 --> 00:06:08.635 in terms of just like the simplest way to think about it, 109 00:06:08.635 --> 00:06:10.315 this is kind of what I would recommend. 110 00:06:10.315 --> 00:06:14.475 So I would just think about what type of entity am I. 111 00:06:14.475 --> 00:06:16.190 If I'm a government entity, 112 00:06:16.190 --> 00:06:19.630 I would recommend Part ninety one as kind of the most just 113 00:06:19.630 --> 00:06:24.150 streamlined path to getting these waivers and getting operational. 114 00:06:24.190 --> 00:06:25.550 If you're not a government entity, 115 00:06:25.550 --> 00:06:26.430 it's kind of a trick question. 116 00:06:26.430 --> 00:06:27.950 You really only have one option. 117 00:06:27.950 --> 00:06:30.230 You have to fly under Part one zero seven. 118 00:06:30.485 --> 00:06:32.405 So the government entities do have a choice. 119 00:06:32.405 --> 00:06:36.325 They could fly under either one in most cases, 120 00:06:36.325 --> 00:06:38.405 but I recommend Part ninety one. 121 00:06:38.405 --> 00:06:40.085 And then if you're not a government entity, 122 00:06:40.085 --> 00:06:42.085 you fly under Part one hundred seven. 123 00:06:42.085 --> 00:06:44.510 So that's just kind of the simplest way to think about it. 124 00:06:44.510 --> 00:06:47.390 And as we go through the materials here I'll start to 125 00:06:47.390 --> 00:06:50.070 kind of just point out some of these differences, 126 00:06:50.190 --> 00:06:53.030 where they matter, where they don't and so on. 127 00:06:55.470 --> 00:06:58.350 Okay so let's just kind of start doing like side by side 128 00:06:58.350 --> 00:07:00.475 comparison here a little bit of the two. 129 00:07:00.475 --> 00:07:03.595 And again, I'm focusing initially here on just the 130 00:07:03.595 --> 00:07:06.155 public safety standard two hundred foot waivers. 131 00:07:06.155 --> 00:07:10.195 So this is your single drone waiver, one pilot to one drone, 132 00:07:10.955 --> 00:07:14.020 and this is a waiver you can generally get quite quite easy. 133 00:07:14.020 --> 00:07:16.460 There's streamlined processes for that. 134 00:07:17.300 --> 00:07:17.860 Okay. 135 00:07:17.860 --> 00:07:21.780 So eligibility is kind of one of the first things you have to think about, 136 00:07:21.780 --> 00:07:24.980 and I already alluded to it in that that previous graphic. 137 00:07:24.980 --> 00:07:27.415 But to get a part ninety one waiver, 138 00:07:27.415 --> 00:07:28.455 you have to be two things. 139 00:07:28.455 --> 00:07:31.655 You have to be a public safety organization and a public 140 00:07:31.655 --> 00:07:33.335 aircraft operator. 141 00:07:33.335 --> 00:07:34.615 For part one zero seven, 142 00:07:34.615 --> 00:07:37.095 you only have to be a public safety organization. 143 00:07:37.095 --> 00:07:39.575 So that's where if you're not a government entity, 144 00:07:39.575 --> 00:07:41.800 if you're not a public aircraft operator, 145 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.280 that's really the only choice for you. 146 00:07:44.280 --> 00:07:46.440 And I've covered these definitions on previous 147 00:07:46.440 --> 00:07:50.160 webinars and obviously the FAA has lots of material on this. 148 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.155 So I'm going kind of skip the detailed definition here and 149 00:07:53.155 --> 00:07:57.035 you can refer back to the material there. 150 00:07:57.155 --> 00:08:00.595 But yeah, and in this initial section I'm going kind of just highlight 151 00:08:00.595 --> 00:08:03.955 the differences in that gold text there to just sort of make 152 00:08:03.955 --> 00:08:06.075 them pop so you all can see that. 153 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:12.200 Okay so once you've decided or kind of determined what type of 154 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:15.680 interviewer you are and now you've got to go get a waiver, 155 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.920 this is the documentation that you have to put together to 156 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.480 actually submit to the FAA for this waiver. 157 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:22.160 So 158 00:08:22.685 --> 00:08:25.165 both the Part ninety one and the one hundred seven, 159 00:08:25.165 --> 00:08:29.405 they require a responsible person to complete a set of documents. 160 00:08:29.405 --> 00:08:30.845 For Part ninety one, 161 00:08:30.845 --> 00:08:32.365 you're going to fill out a seven thousand seven hundred 162 00:08:32.365 --> 00:08:34.845 eleven form, a waiver checklist, 163 00:08:34.845 --> 00:08:37.845 and a letter as a concept of operation. 164 00:08:38.180 --> 00:08:39.620 Whereas under Part one hundred seven, 165 00:08:39.620 --> 00:08:42.740 you're going to do just the checklist and letter. 166 00:08:42.740 --> 00:08:47.100 So seven thousand seven hundred eleven is a unique form to ninety one. 167 00:08:47.540 --> 00:08:48.660 It's a difference. 168 00:08:48.660 --> 00:08:50.820 I wouldn't say it's a meaningful difference though. 169 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:53.340 It's just kind of a form to put your information 170 00:08:53.995 --> 00:08:55.715 and sign it. 171 00:08:56.475 --> 00:08:59.395 And who is this responsible person? 172 00:08:59.515 --> 00:09:02.475 This is the same between the two but I want to just 173 00:09:02.475 --> 00:09:05.475 highlight this too as just a common kind of 174 00:09:05.515 --> 00:09:08.235 question that I get when talking to agencies. 175 00:09:08.235 --> 00:09:10.580 So the responsible person, 176 00:09:10.580 --> 00:09:13.380 there needs to be one of these regardless of whether you do 177 00:09:13.380 --> 00:09:15.820 Part one hundred seven or ninety one. 178 00:09:15.860 --> 00:09:17.700 And from the FAA's checklist, 179 00:09:17.700 --> 00:09:21.300 their definition is this is a person that accepts direct 180 00:09:21.300 --> 00:09:24.885 responsibility for safety of the operations under the waiver. 181 00:09:24.885 --> 00:09:28.165 They're kind of like that organization's designee for 182 00:09:28.165 --> 00:09:31.645 managing the operations under the waiver. 183 00:09:31.685 --> 00:09:35.365 And the FAA's checklist goes on further to say like this is 184 00:09:35.365 --> 00:09:39.005 typically a chief assistant chief chief pilot type of role. 185 00:09:39.220 --> 00:09:41.220 I find most agencies don't, 186 00:09:41.220 --> 00:09:45.540 they're not designating staff to fill like 187 00:09:45.540 --> 00:09:49.300 this type of traditional aviation role, chief pilot, 188 00:09:49.300 --> 00:09:52.340 so I tend to focus agencies on the gold text there of it's 189 00:09:52.340 --> 00:09:56.685 just a senior level person who's going to be accountable to the FAA. 190 00:09:57.365 --> 00:10:00.165 And so a few more recommendations on the right side, 191 00:10:00.165 --> 00:10:02.325 you know we recommend that this person has a working knowledge 192 00:10:02.325 --> 00:10:04.125 of the drone program. 193 00:10:04.245 --> 00:10:07.205 Don't go too high in the organization where you know 194 00:10:07.205 --> 00:10:09.125 like the chief for example, 195 00:10:09.125 --> 00:10:12.540 if they're not kind of following the program and they 196 00:10:12.540 --> 00:10:17.300 don't understand it like day to day ops I wouldn't pick that person. 197 00:10:18.140 --> 00:10:20.620 And then this person does need to have some authority and 198 00:10:20.620 --> 00:10:23.420 standing in the agency to be accountable for it and finally 199 00:10:23.420 --> 00:10:26.020 they don't need a remote pass certificate 200 00:10:26.235 --> 00:10:29.075 so it doesn't need to be somebody that has one. 201 00:10:29.435 --> 00:10:33.355 But yeah, think about who this is in your agency if you haven't gotten 202 00:10:33.355 --> 00:10:36.715 the waiver yet this person would sign those documents and 203 00:10:36.715 --> 00:10:38.395 then become responsible. 204 00:10:38.395 --> 00:10:41.190 And going to talk about responsibilities in a couple of 205 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:42.070 slides here later, 206 00:10:42.070 --> 00:10:45.870 so we'll come back to this responsible person concept. 207 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:49.510 Okay. 208 00:10:49.510 --> 00:10:51.430 And then once you've got the documents ready, 209 00:10:51.430 --> 00:10:52.230 what do you do with them? 210 00:10:52.230 --> 00:10:54.545 Where do you send them to request the waiver? 211 00:10:54.545 --> 00:10:56.545 So under Part ninety one, 212 00:10:56.545 --> 00:11:00.225 you're going to just email them to the FAA and typically the 213 00:11:00.225 --> 00:11:03.185 FAA will respond in a week or two. 214 00:11:03.185 --> 00:11:05.265 It's a pretty quick turnaround. 215 00:11:05.265 --> 00:11:08.010 Part one hundred seven is a little bit different. 216 00:11:08.010 --> 00:11:12.330 You're going to send the documents into a FA portal. 217 00:11:12.330 --> 00:11:14.970 So you'll create an account and you'll kind of go through the 218 00:11:14.970 --> 00:11:17.650 application process in the portal. 219 00:11:17.690 --> 00:11:19.490 And once you've submitted it, 220 00:11:19.795 --> 00:11:23.075 it typically takes a little bit longer for the FAA to review 221 00:11:23.075 --> 00:11:25.715 these, but still quite fast, typically less than a month, 222 00:11:25.715 --> 00:11:28.715 but often a week or two as well. 223 00:11:28.995 --> 00:11:30.595 So some differences, 224 00:11:30.595 --> 00:11:33.115 but I would say in the big picture 225 00:11:33.235 --> 00:11:36.760 these don't matter enough to like change how you should 226 00:11:36.760 --> 00:11:39.600 think about getting one over the other. 227 00:11:42.520 --> 00:11:45.320 All right. And then now let's get into the approval. 228 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:46.680 So you get the waiver. 229 00:11:46.680 --> 00:11:49.105 Now you're kind of thinking about how to go operate 230 00:11:49.105 --> 00:11:52.345 and comply with all the provisions. 231 00:11:52.385 --> 00:11:54.465 So again, kind of back to that theme, 232 00:11:54.465 --> 00:11:56.305 these are more similar than different. 233 00:11:56.305 --> 00:11:59.425 So in the big picture, these two waivers, 234 00:11:59.425 --> 00:12:02.360 they effectively allow you to do the same 235 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.800 thing, the same type of operations. 236 00:12:05.880 --> 00:12:08.120 So for for both, 237 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:10.840 you can do four hundred foot visual line of sight operations. 238 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:12.200 And for part one hundred seven, 239 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:13.720 that's just standard part one hundred seven. 240 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.520 It's not, like, waived, 241 00:12:15.595 --> 00:12:17.115 but that's just kind of worth calling out. 242 00:12:17.115 --> 00:12:18.155 Under Part ninety one, 243 00:12:18.155 --> 00:12:20.875 there's actually a provision that says you can do this. 244 00:12:20.875 --> 00:12:24.555 So both of them would allow you to do visual line of sight 245 00:12:24.555 --> 00:12:27.155 operations still up to four hundred feet. 246 00:12:27.195 --> 00:12:29.595 Both of them will allow you to do beyond visual line of sight 247 00:12:29.595 --> 00:12:31.410 operations up to two hundred feet. 248 00:12:31.410 --> 00:12:34.370 And that provision shown on the right side, 249 00:12:34.370 --> 00:12:37.290 it's actually verbatim the same between the two. 250 00:12:37.570 --> 00:12:41.410 And both waivers allow you to do these things nationwide, 251 00:12:41.410 --> 00:12:45.685 either in uncontrolled airspace or in controlled airspace as 252 00:12:45.685 --> 00:12:49.565 long as you're below the UAS facility map altitudes. 253 00:12:53.285 --> 00:12:54.965 And then drone requirements 254 00:12:54.965 --> 00:12:56.620 wise kind of the same thing. 255 00:12:56.620 --> 00:12:58.700 They're generally the same requirements. 256 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:01.420 So you have to fly less than one hundred miles an hour, 257 00:13:01.420 --> 00:13:03.660 you have to use under fifty five pound drones and those 258 00:13:03.660 --> 00:13:05.740 drones have to have anti collision lighting and remote 259 00:13:05.740 --> 00:13:06.780 ID. 260 00:13:06.780 --> 00:13:08.540 When you're flying beyond visualized site you have to 261 00:13:08.540 --> 00:13:12.335 have a method of receiving ADS B and when you're flying over 262 00:13:12.335 --> 00:13:16.175 people you need for bigger drones at least you need a 263 00:13:16.175 --> 00:13:19.455 compliant parachute system and then there's kind of a point 264 00:13:19.455 --> 00:13:22.175 eight eight pound threshold where as long as they're under 265 00:13:22.175 --> 00:13:25.855 that and you have a method of preventing the props from 266 00:13:25.855 --> 00:13:29.990 lacerating humans you can also operate those over people. 267 00:13:29.990 --> 00:13:32.630 So more or less the same requirements. 268 00:13:32.630 --> 00:13:33.670 The gold text here, 269 00:13:33.670 --> 00:13:36.310 the one kind of difference probably between the two is 270 00:13:36.310 --> 00:13:39.670 Part ninety one has a limited exception in emergency 271 00:13:39.670 --> 00:13:42.910 situations where you can fly over people without the parachute. 272 00:13:43.615 --> 00:13:45.615 But I would say at this point, 273 00:13:45.615 --> 00:13:49.215 we really strongly encourage the use of the parachute. 274 00:13:49.215 --> 00:13:52.975 It's a great product and really for dock based systems it's 275 00:13:52.975 --> 00:13:54.815 kind of part of the standard packaging anyway. 276 00:13:54.815 --> 00:13:58.140 So we really encourage agencies to use the parachute anyways 277 00:13:58.140 --> 00:14:01.900 but you know on a kind of just technical level that limited 278 00:14:01.900 --> 00:14:07.380 exception does exist under Part ninety one and not under Part one and seven. 279 00:14:10.985 --> 00:14:14.265 Okay and then record keeping and reporting, 280 00:14:14.265 --> 00:14:16.105 again more or less the same, 281 00:14:16.105 --> 00:14:18.545 one kind of small difference but 282 00:14:18.585 --> 00:14:19.865 the responsible person, 283 00:14:19.865 --> 00:14:22.980 they're going to be responsible for maintaining a record of training, 284 00:14:22.980 --> 00:14:25.780 of pilots and drones flying under the waiver of things like 285 00:14:25.780 --> 00:14:28.420 site surveys and monthly flight time. 286 00:14:28.420 --> 00:14:30.980 And then they're responsible for reporting accidents and 287 00:14:30.980 --> 00:14:33.740 incidents to the NTSB and FAA. 288 00:14:33.780 --> 00:14:37.380 One kind of common thing I see from agencies 289 00:14:37.380 --> 00:14:41.135 is they're not aware of the NTSB reporting requirements. 290 00:14:41.135 --> 00:14:44.255 These actually apply kind of drone wide. 291 00:14:44.255 --> 00:14:46.815 Like, if you're flying just under Part one hundred seven, 292 00:14:46.815 --> 00:14:49.695 these NTSB reporting requirements still apply to you, actually. 293 00:14:49.695 --> 00:14:50.615 So 294 00:14:51.940 --> 00:14:54.260 getting the waiver is kind of a good reminder that you have to 295 00:14:54.260 --> 00:14:57.460 do this and then the FAA has their kind of reporting 296 00:14:57.460 --> 00:14:59.660 requirements on top of that. 297 00:14:59.940 --> 00:15:00.900 There's one difference. 298 00:15:00.900 --> 00:15:02.355 So under Part one hundred seven, 299 00:15:02.355 --> 00:15:04.915 and this is just because Part one hundred seven has this 300 00:15:04.915 --> 00:15:08.995 regulation one hundred seven point nine where you have to 301 00:15:08.995 --> 00:15:12.555 report this is kind of the five hundred dollars threshold 302 00:15:12.835 --> 00:15:15.875 or if you cause damage over that amount you have to report it. 303 00:15:15.875 --> 00:15:18.800 So Part one hundred seven has the additional one hundred 304 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:22.400 seven point nine reporting requirement that Part ninety one doesn't, 305 00:15:22.400 --> 00:15:25.720 but that's really the only difference between the two. 306 00:15:30.255 --> 00:15:33.935 Okay and so yeah, again just to hammer it 307 00:15:33.935 --> 00:15:35.695 home, like very similar. 308 00:15:35.695 --> 00:15:38.815 They're both going to allow you to do the same types of 309 00:15:38.815 --> 00:15:42.615 operations, to do DFR, to do tactical operations 310 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:46.200 with any drone really that meets those requirements. 311 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.320 So then are there differences? 312 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.600 Yes, there are some differences. 313 00:15:50.640 --> 00:15:54.320 Some of these differences actually do have like an impact 314 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.145 on your operations and some of them are just technicalities, really. 315 00:15:58.145 --> 00:16:00.545 So, we'll kinda talk about a few 316 00:16:00.545 --> 00:16:04.305 differences here, and I'm gonna kinda go in order of, like, 317 00:16:04.305 --> 00:16:07.425 things that matter to your operations and then things that 318 00:16:07.425 --> 00:16:10.265 are just kinda technicalities towards the end. 319 00:16:13.790 --> 00:16:17.710 Okay, so the first one is the standard weather minimums. 320 00:16:17.710 --> 00:16:22.830 So this has actually been just a recent change under Part ninety one. 321 00:16:22.830 --> 00:16:25.855 So now if you apply for just standard two hundred 322 00:16:25.855 --> 00:16:27.695 foot Part ninety one waiver, 323 00:16:27.695 --> 00:16:30.415 you're going get a standard weather minimum of one statute 324 00:16:30.415 --> 00:16:31.855 mile and clear clouds. 325 00:16:31.855 --> 00:16:34.415 So you just have to have one mile visibility and just stay 326 00:16:34.415 --> 00:16:36.575 out of the clouds essentially, 327 00:16:36.575 --> 00:16:38.735 which allows you to fly in a little bit more inclement 328 00:16:38.735 --> 00:16:42.130 weather if there's like light rain or kind of some lower 329 00:16:42.130 --> 00:16:45.010 ceilings on occasion. 330 00:16:45.010 --> 00:16:49.170 This may give you a couple extra days a year that you can operate under. 331 00:16:49.170 --> 00:16:52.210 Part one hundred seven still has just like your standard 332 00:16:52.210 --> 00:16:56.645 three miles and five hundred foot below clouds weather requirements. 333 00:16:56.645 --> 00:16:59.925 So small difference here, but this may, you know, 334 00:16:59.925 --> 00:17:02.205 have an impact on your operations. 335 00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:10.250 Okay. Qualifications, training, and airworthiness. 336 00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:14.010 So now we're the next couple are are start to get a little 337 00:17:14.010 --> 00:17:18.410 bit more, you know, complicated in-depth, nuanced. 338 00:17:18.410 --> 00:17:21.170 So under Part ninety one, 339 00:17:21.185 --> 00:17:25.345 your agency is really just responsible for self certifying 340 00:17:25.345 --> 00:17:26.065 these two things. 341 00:17:26.065 --> 00:17:30.065 So you're going to self certify your pilots and you're going to 342 00:17:30.065 --> 00:17:33.185 self certify that the aircraft are airworthy. 343 00:17:33.185 --> 00:17:36.650 Because under just kind of standard Part ninety one 344 00:17:36.650 --> 00:17:39.770 regulations aircraft have to have airworthiness certificates 345 00:17:39.770 --> 00:17:43.130 and those are issued by the FAA but as a public aircraft 346 00:17:43.130 --> 00:17:47.010 operator you can self certify that airworthiness. 347 00:17:47.050 --> 00:17:48.850 Under Part one hundred seven, 348 00:17:49.045 --> 00:17:53.765 a little bit different in kind of the verbiage and the actual requirements. 349 00:17:53.765 --> 00:17:57.045 So pilots must have a remote pilot certificate. 350 00:17:57.045 --> 00:17:59.685 That's non negotiable. You've to have it. 351 00:17:59.685 --> 00:18:01.925 But then don't forget, you know, 352 00:18:01.925 --> 00:18:05.130 the responsible person is still responsible for ensuring pilots 353 00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:07.690 have the knowledge and skills to do beyond the line of sight 354 00:18:07.690 --> 00:18:11.050 operations and to understand the waiver and so on. 355 00:18:11.050 --> 00:18:14.410 So it's kind of a remote pilot plus type of model. 356 00:18:14.410 --> 00:18:16.245 You've to have that SERP but then the 357 00:18:16.245 --> 00:18:19.125 responsible person is still responsible for kind of adding 358 00:18:19.125 --> 00:18:22.285 some extra training and knowledge on top of that. 359 00:18:22.805 --> 00:18:25.605 And then as far as the drone goes, 360 00:18:25.605 --> 00:18:27.765 it's again slightly different. 361 00:18:27.765 --> 00:18:31.430 There's no concept of aircraft airworthiness in Part one hundred seven. 362 00:18:31.430 --> 00:18:34.630 What the regulations say is that the pilot is responsible 363 00:18:34.630 --> 00:18:37.910 for ensuring the aircraft is in a safe condition for operation. 364 00:18:37.910 --> 00:18:40.950 That's kind of the term that's used in Part one hundred seven. 365 00:18:40.950 --> 00:18:44.425 So before every flight, the pilot should be 366 00:18:44.425 --> 00:18:45.945 doing their preflight activities, 367 00:18:45.945 --> 00:18:50.145 making sure the drone is being maintained, and so on. 368 00:18:50.505 --> 00:18:54.345 So on paper, these two things kind of look different, right? 369 00:18:54.345 --> 00:18:56.905 There's a self certification model and then there's kind of 370 00:18:56.905 --> 00:19:03.370 this Remote Pilot Plus and remote pilot responsibility for airworthiness. 371 00:19:03.490 --> 00:19:07.090 I would kind of encourage agencies to think about this a 372 00:19:07.090 --> 00:19:07.810 little bit differently. 373 00:19:07.810 --> 00:19:10.050 I would encourage them to think about these two things actually 374 00:19:10.050 --> 00:19:12.450 the same in a sense. 375 00:19:12.450 --> 00:19:16.895 So if you kind of step back and just remove the 376 00:19:16.895 --> 00:19:18.655 the words on screen for a second, 377 00:19:18.655 --> 00:19:21.695 I think we could all agree that the goal is just to ensure that 378 00:19:21.695 --> 00:19:25.375 pilots, when they're flying drones, are are safe. 379 00:19:25.375 --> 00:19:27.055 They're following the waiver provisions. 380 00:19:27.055 --> 00:19:28.695 They're getting the mission done, 381 00:19:28.990 --> 00:19:32.750 and we wanna be training those pilots to to do those things. 382 00:19:32.750 --> 00:19:35.710 So if we can all agree that just we wanna make sure pilots 383 00:19:35.710 --> 00:19:38.030 are trained and proficient and safe, 384 00:19:38.030 --> 00:19:40.070 that's the most important thing. 385 00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:43.085 And so then if you add back in these terms, 386 00:19:43.085 --> 00:19:45.485 it kind of starts to matter a little bit less. 387 00:19:45.485 --> 00:19:46.045 Right? 388 00:19:46.045 --> 00:19:48.605 Just because a pilot gets a remote pilot certificate 389 00:19:48.605 --> 00:19:52.685 doesn't mean they're proficient and safe and ready to do the 390 00:19:52.685 --> 00:19:54.885 ambush line sight ops under a waiver. 391 00:19:56.170 --> 00:19:57.290 And similarly, 392 00:19:57.290 --> 00:20:00.250 just because you can do self certification doesn't mean like 393 00:20:00.250 --> 00:20:02.650 just give the drone to somebody and let them go. 394 00:20:02.650 --> 00:20:04.890 You still need to make sure they're trained and safe and 395 00:20:04.890 --> 00:20:05.770 following the waiver. 396 00:20:05.770 --> 00:20:09.530 So I would kind of stress that just the most important thing 397 00:20:09.530 --> 00:20:11.125 is in your agency, 398 00:20:11.125 --> 00:20:13.765 think think about what your training program is. 399 00:20:13.765 --> 00:20:16.325 Think about is it covering all the the proficiency, 400 00:20:16.325 --> 00:20:20.365 the knowledge, the skills, and just document that training. 401 00:20:20.645 --> 00:20:23.525 And that is gonna kinda satisfy these two things. Yes. 402 00:20:23.525 --> 00:20:26.890 You gotta go get the Remo PODS certificate under Part one hundred seven. 403 00:20:26.890 --> 00:20:29.250 Again, that's kind of a nonnegotiable, 404 00:20:29.930 --> 00:20:33.210 you've to make sure you're doing training on top of that. 405 00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:35.290 And then similarly with the drones, right? 406 00:20:35.290 --> 00:20:38.785 So again, the goal is just to have kind of ready to 407 00:20:38.785 --> 00:20:42.145 go healthy drones that are being maintained and checked. 408 00:20:42.145 --> 00:20:44.865 So follow the OEM recommendations, 409 00:20:44.865 --> 00:20:49.025 do your preflight checks, do your postflight checks, and so on. 410 00:20:49.025 --> 00:20:51.585 And we have a lot of great written documentation on, like, 411 00:20:51.585 --> 00:20:55.440 what our maintenance intervals are, how to do the maintenance, 412 00:20:55.560 --> 00:20:58.040 how to do the check play after the maintenance, and so on. 413 00:20:58.040 --> 00:21:01.240 So there's a lot of resources out there if you're operating 414 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:05.080 X10s for you to to have a good kind of 415 00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:08.375 airworthiness slash maintenance program. 416 00:21:08.495 --> 00:21:10.655 And I brought the waiver provision back up. 417 00:21:10.655 --> 00:21:11.855 I know it's small print, 418 00:21:11.855 --> 00:21:16.015 this is just a call out back to that responsible person one. 419 00:21:16.015 --> 00:21:18.375 Actually let me see if I can find it quick. 420 00:21:18.490 --> 00:21:20.410 This provision right here. 421 00:21:20.410 --> 00:21:22.730 So it kind of goes back to this, right? 422 00:21:22.730 --> 00:21:26.010 For both waivers, the responsible person and the 423 00:21:26.010 --> 00:21:28.490 operator are responsible for making sure the operator is 424 00:21:28.490 --> 00:21:31.050 trained, they're informed of the waiver, 425 00:21:31.050 --> 00:21:33.015 they're informed of the regulations and so on. 426 00:21:33.015 --> 00:21:36.615 So it kind of ends up again just like being similar in the 427 00:21:36.615 --> 00:21:38.495 end instead of different. 428 00:21:42.295 --> 00:21:43.095 Okay. 429 00:21:43.095 --> 00:21:47.015 And now this is in that same vein, right? 430 00:21:47.015 --> 00:21:52.090 This is kind of another thing I hear where there's maybe a 431 00:21:53.090 --> 00:21:57.650 kind of perspective that under Part one hundred seven, 432 00:21:57.650 --> 00:22:00.050 it's like kind of all on the pilot and they're responsible 433 00:22:00.050 --> 00:22:02.930 for everything and, like, the agency's kind of shielded, 434 00:22:02.930 --> 00:22:05.445 in a sense, from liability and then, like, 435 00:22:05.445 --> 00:22:06.725 vice versa on Part ninety one, 436 00:22:06.725 --> 00:22:08.845 it's kind of all on the operator. 437 00:22:09.605 --> 00:22:14.325 So, again, I kind of encourage shifting the thinking 438 00:22:14.325 --> 00:22:15.445 around this a little bit. 439 00:22:15.445 --> 00:22:18.610 So, yes, in the waiver, 440 00:22:18.610 --> 00:22:20.130 there's different terms being used. 441 00:22:20.130 --> 00:22:21.330 So under Part ninety one, 442 00:22:21.330 --> 00:22:24.530 it's the operator's responsible for x, y, z, 443 00:22:24.530 --> 00:22:26.690 or the operator must do this. 444 00:22:26.690 --> 00:22:28.690 And then similarly on Part one hundred seven, 445 00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:33.265 it's the responsible person's responsible, must do this, and so on. 446 00:22:34.905 --> 00:22:36.825 But, yeah, I've, again, 447 00:22:36.825 --> 00:22:38.665 just kind of similar to the previous slide, 448 00:22:38.665 --> 00:22:41.625 I would kind of encourage you to think about there's really 449 00:22:41.625 --> 00:22:44.460 like a shared responsibility model going on here. 450 00:22:44.460 --> 00:22:46.940 It's not just the pilot's responsibility, 451 00:22:46.940 --> 00:22:49.340 or it's not just the responsible person, 452 00:22:49.340 --> 00:22:52.060 or just the operator, and so on. 453 00:22:52.060 --> 00:22:54.620 So if we go, can I get the next slide up here? 454 00:22:54.620 --> 00:22:55.700 So 455 00:22:56.300 --> 00:22:58.420 I don't think it's a perfect graphic, 456 00:22:58.785 --> 00:23:01.425 but it's kind of what I came up with to just try and kind of 457 00:23:01.425 --> 00:23:03.025 get this point across right. 458 00:23:03.025 --> 00:23:04.105 So 459 00:23:05.105 --> 00:23:09.345 there's kind of the goal again just in the big picture is safe operations. 460 00:23:09.345 --> 00:23:11.745 We want to be safe, we want to be following the waiver, 461 00:23:11.745 --> 00:23:13.425 getting the mission done. 462 00:23:13.425 --> 00:23:16.970 And so there's these two parties have to both kind of do 463 00:23:16.970 --> 00:23:19.130 their part, and they're responsible for different things. 464 00:23:19.130 --> 00:23:22.090 So the operatorresponsible person, 465 00:23:22.090 --> 00:23:24.250 because really the responsible person is just like the 466 00:23:24.250 --> 00:23:28.345 designee, the point person on behalf of the operator. 467 00:23:28.345 --> 00:23:30.585 They're responsible for training the pilots, 468 00:23:30.585 --> 00:23:31.945 making sure they understand the waiver, 469 00:23:31.945 --> 00:23:34.305 they're familiar with regs, etc. 470 00:23:34.345 --> 00:23:38.585 They're going to likely be the one to respond to FAA 471 00:23:38.585 --> 00:23:40.585 inquiries or like surveillance activities. 472 00:23:40.585 --> 00:23:44.080 If there's a ramp check, this person might lead that. 473 00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:47.120 They're responsible for reporting and so on. 474 00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:50.880 So they're kind of responsible for things like before and 475 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:54.360 after the flight, if that maybe helps frame it too. 476 00:23:54.415 --> 00:23:57.135 And then the remote pilot on the other hand is responsible 477 00:23:57.135 --> 00:24:00.495 for like takeoff to landing and then the activities kind of 478 00:24:00.495 --> 00:24:03.135 directly before and after that. 479 00:24:03.135 --> 00:24:05.695 So they're going to launch the drone, 480 00:24:05.695 --> 00:24:08.320 they've got to make sure they got the return behavior set, 481 00:24:08.320 --> 00:24:11.120 the anti collision lights on, they're at two hundred feet, 482 00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:12.880 they're giving away crewed aircraft, etc. 483 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.400 So their responsibilities are kind of primarily just 484 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:18.440 directly before 485 00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:20.600 takeoff to landing. 486 00:24:21.165 --> 00:24:23.645 There's likely some overlap in the middle, right, 487 00:24:23.645 --> 00:24:25.725 so they're both going to probably help with some 488 00:24:25.725 --> 00:24:27.645 airworthiness activities. 489 00:24:27.645 --> 00:24:30.765 You know, the operator is going buy the props and maybe the remote pod 490 00:24:30.765 --> 00:24:35.320 goes and puts them on when the intervals hit. 491 00:24:35.320 --> 00:24:36.680 Or the record keeping, right? 492 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:39.000 So the remote pod is going to fill out some records after flight, 493 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.760 but then their operator is going to report those as needed. 494 00:24:42.760 --> 00:24:43.760 So 495 00:24:44.280 --> 00:24:47.560 yeah, hopefully that kind of gets my point across here that there's 496 00:24:47.560 --> 00:24:49.840 really like shared responsibility. 497 00:24:49.935 --> 00:24:51.615 It's not just one or the other. 498 00:24:51.615 --> 00:24:55.375 It's not just the pilot's job or just the RP's job or operator. 499 00:24:55.375 --> 00:24:59.055 And so both parties have to do their part to make sure we're 500 00:24:59.055 --> 00:25:00.895 doing safe compliant operations. 501 00:25:00.895 --> 00:25:04.430 And these two ultimately kind of become the same again at the 502 00:25:04.430 --> 00:25:05.910 end of the day. 503 00:25:09.070 --> 00:25:11.670 Alright. Okay. 504 00:25:11.710 --> 00:25:14.670 And then one more at the end just kind of for fun. 505 00:25:14.670 --> 00:25:16.590 I alluded to this before, right? 506 00:25:16.590 --> 00:25:19.225 So Part ninety one has more provisions, 507 00:25:19.225 --> 00:25:20.985 thirty eight provisions. 508 00:25:20.985 --> 00:25:24.065 Part one hundred seven has twenty nine provisions. 509 00:25:24.105 --> 00:25:27.545 This is not a meaningful difference or something you 510 00:25:27.545 --> 00:25:31.545 should be thinking about when you're choosing or deciding how to operate. 511 00:25:31.545 --> 00:25:34.370 So why does Part ninety one have more regulations? 512 00:25:34.370 --> 00:25:37.250 It's just simply because Part ninety one was not written for 513 00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:40.450 drone operations in mind and the FAA has to do a little bit 514 00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:44.610 more waiving to kind of make it match with Part one hundred seven. 515 00:25:44.610 --> 00:25:46.945 So there's two examples but 516 00:25:46.945 --> 00:25:48.305 there's many more. 517 00:25:48.305 --> 00:25:49.905 For example Class B airspace. 518 00:25:49.905 --> 00:25:53.745 So under if you're flying in like an 519 00:25:53.745 --> 00:25:57.345 airplane, the pilot actually has to call ATC before they 520 00:25:57.345 --> 00:25:59.640 enter Bravo airspace and get clearance. 521 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.240 Has to be an explicit thing. 522 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:05.800 You're cleared to enter this airspace and that's every single time. 523 00:26:05.800 --> 00:26:10.040 So that obviously like doesn't make a lot of sense for drones 524 00:26:10.040 --> 00:26:12.920 and so the FAA basically just waives that requirement for 525 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.925 drones and instead you just stay at, you know, 526 00:26:15.925 --> 00:26:18.165 four hundred foot or two hundred foot or below the grid 527 00:26:18.165 --> 00:26:19.365 numbers, whatever those are, 528 00:26:19.365 --> 00:26:23.605 and that's sufficient to keep keep everybody safe and separated. 529 00:26:23.605 --> 00:26:26.085 Four hundred foot is another example. 530 00:26:26.085 --> 00:26:29.420 So part one zero seven has four hundred foot operations built in. 531 00:26:29.420 --> 00:26:31.420 That's like what the rule is written for. 532 00:26:31.420 --> 00:26:33.740 They don't need to waive it, but part ninety one, 533 00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:38.340 they have to create a provision to allow you to do that under part ninety one. 534 00:26:40.605 --> 00:26:41.845 Okay. 535 00:26:43.565 --> 00:26:47.485 Yeah and please if you do have questions we're monitoring the chat. 536 00:26:47.485 --> 00:26:50.525 Throw them in and we'll try and get them 537 00:26:50.525 --> 00:26:52.005 answered for you. 538 00:26:52.685 --> 00:26:53.805 Other considerations. 539 00:26:53.805 --> 00:26:56.470 So now I'm going kind of just move 540 00:26:56.470 --> 00:26:59.150 on to like the additional things, 541 00:26:59.510 --> 00:27:03.070 those additional approvals, airspace authorizations, etc. 542 00:27:03.590 --> 00:27:06.470 So firstly, airspace authorizations. 543 00:27:06.470 --> 00:27:10.495 So again, the waivers that you get, the standard waiver, 544 00:27:10.495 --> 00:27:13.855 it allows you to fly below the facility map 545 00:27:13.855 --> 00:27:17.215 altitudes without any kind of additional approval. 546 00:27:17.215 --> 00:27:21.095 The waiver is the authorization to fly below the grids. 547 00:27:21.180 --> 00:27:23.420 If you wanna fly above the grids, 548 00:27:23.420 --> 00:27:24.780 you have kinda two options. 549 00:27:24.780 --> 00:27:26.140 You can get an SGI, 550 00:27:26.140 --> 00:27:30.540 but SGIs are really for just kind of emergency purposes and 551 00:27:30.540 --> 00:27:31.740 they're case by case. 552 00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:34.260 So it's not really a good way to do 553 00:27:34.275 --> 00:27:35.475 routine operations. 554 00:27:35.475 --> 00:27:38.595 So if you want to routinely fly above a grid number, 555 00:27:38.595 --> 00:27:40.835 you need an airspace authorization. 556 00:27:40.835 --> 00:27:43.795 And so the process is a little bit different between the two. 557 00:27:43.795 --> 00:27:45.555 For Part ninety one, 558 00:27:45.555 --> 00:27:48.155 you're going to submit that request in CAHPS 559 00:27:48.310 --> 00:27:51.110 And kind of generally the process then is you have to go 560 00:27:51.110 --> 00:27:53.110 get a public declaration letter, 561 00:27:53.110 --> 00:27:55.990 you submit that to the FAA to get CAHPS access, 562 00:27:55.990 --> 00:27:59.950 so they create your account for you and give you access. 563 00:27:59.990 --> 00:28:03.190 And then you have to kind of put the application together 564 00:28:03.190 --> 00:28:05.465 and submit it in CAHPS. 565 00:28:05.745 --> 00:28:07.905 Part one hundred seven, a little bit different. 566 00:28:07.905 --> 00:28:10.305 You submit those in DroneZone. 567 00:28:10.305 --> 00:28:13.105 And DroneZone is the same place that you register your drones. 568 00:28:13.105 --> 00:28:15.345 You might already have an account here. 569 00:28:15.345 --> 00:28:16.145 And so generally, 570 00:28:16.145 --> 00:28:17.985 you're just going to create an account if you don't have one 571 00:28:17.985 --> 00:28:20.740 yet and then submit your request there. 572 00:28:21.260 --> 00:28:25.420 I would say this is probably the one downside of Part 573 00:28:25.420 --> 00:28:28.460 ninety one that's left really is the CAHPS portal. 574 00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:31.820 So I know some of you on the webinar have likely been in 575 00:28:31.820 --> 00:28:34.020 CAHPS. You know what I'm talking about. 576 00:28:34.285 --> 00:28:35.885 It's not the nicest website. 577 00:28:35.885 --> 00:28:39.445 But we do have guides, and we'll help you get through it. 578 00:28:39.485 --> 00:28:41.485 And it's similar for Part one hundred seven as well. 579 00:28:41.485 --> 00:28:42.565 So 580 00:28:43.085 --> 00:28:45.965 the process is a little bit more difficult than a Part 581 00:28:45.965 --> 00:28:50.660 ninety one, but agencies definitely navigate through it. 582 00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:53.780 Both of them take about sixty or up to sixty days, 583 00:28:53.780 --> 00:28:54.260 I should say. 584 00:28:54.260 --> 00:28:57.140 Some go much faster, some go a little slower. 585 00:28:57.140 --> 00:28:59.220 And then the approval, once you get it, 586 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:01.180 they're effectively identical. 587 00:29:02.395 --> 00:29:05.915 So yeah, there's no real differences once you get through the 588 00:29:05.915 --> 00:29:09.955 process, just a little bit of difference along the way. 589 00:29:13.355 --> 00:29:15.115 All right, and then multi drone. 590 00:29:15.115 --> 00:29:17.410 So as I mentioned to start the webinar, 591 00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:22.170 multi drone waivers are definitely now an option for agencies. 592 00:29:22.210 --> 00:29:23.890 And so for Part ninety one, 593 00:29:23.890 --> 00:29:25.970 if you want to request a multi drone waiver, 594 00:29:25.970 --> 00:29:29.690 it's a similar streamlined process to the single drone request. 595 00:29:29.885 --> 00:29:35.085 So the RPE is going to complete a set of documents. 596 00:29:35.085 --> 00:29:37.885 That set of documents is going to be a little bit more 597 00:29:37.885 --> 00:29:40.765 comprehensive than the two hundred foot single drone 598 00:29:40.765 --> 00:29:43.565 waiver and like if you're working with me we're going to 599 00:29:43.565 --> 00:29:46.470 provide you with a more comprehensive concept of 600 00:29:46.470 --> 00:29:49.430 operation and some answers to some questions and so on. 601 00:29:49.430 --> 00:29:52.790 So we put together kind of the multidrome material for you and 602 00:29:52.790 --> 00:29:55.510 then you fill out the seven thousand seven hundred eleven 603 00:29:55.510 --> 00:29:57.270 and checklist and submit it all. 604 00:29:57.270 --> 00:30:01.585 So those get emailed to the FAA and then they do take a little 605 00:30:01.585 --> 00:30:05.145 bit longer, so just kind of a heads up for agencies. 606 00:30:05.425 --> 00:30:09.425 Maybe waiting a month or two months for a multi drone waiver 607 00:30:09.425 --> 00:30:12.945 and that's kind of standard timelines at this point under 608 00:30:12.945 --> 00:30:14.105 Part ninety one. 609 00:30:14.760 --> 00:30:16.800 For Part one hundred seven, 610 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.760 it's definitely possible to get multidrug waivers under Part 611 00:30:20.760 --> 00:30:23.960 one hundred seven, but there's no streamlined process yet. 612 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.200 The FAA is kind of still working through that. 613 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.785 So really what it looks like is just going through like the 614 00:30:29.785 --> 00:30:32.665 normal part one zero seven waiver process. 615 00:30:32.665 --> 00:30:36.745 So you're gonna be expected to put together a full concept 616 00:30:36.745 --> 00:30:41.960 of operation and answer all the FAA's WSEG questions. 617 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.200 Those questions, by the way, 618 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:47.040 it's like the FAA's just published the questions for the 619 00:30:47.040 --> 00:30:48.560 regulations one hundred seven, 620 00:30:48.560 --> 00:30:50.680 three thousand one hundred thirty five, 621 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.960 and if you do weather, fifty one as well. 622 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.505 But they have some questions that they ask and you're 623 00:30:55.505 --> 00:30:59.105 expected to provide answers to those questions as part of this 624 00:30:59.105 --> 00:31:01.065 application process. 625 00:31:01.345 --> 00:31:04.785 You would submit everything through that FAA Aviation 626 00:31:04.785 --> 00:31:06.065 Safety Hub portal again. 627 00:31:06.065 --> 00:31:09.960 That's the same portal as the single drone waiver. 628 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:14.600 And then I would estimate maybe two to three months is kind of 629 00:31:14.600 --> 00:31:17.440 the normal Part one hundred seven processing time. 630 00:31:17.800 --> 00:31:21.240 So again, not terribly different than Part ninety one, 631 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.975 but I'd say Part ninety one is just a bit more streamlined right now. 632 00:31:25.255 --> 00:31:28.415 But we can help you get the waiver either way 633 00:31:29.095 --> 00:31:30.535 and get you final with Multi 634 00:31:30.535 --> 00:31:33.810 Drone. 635 00:31:33.810 --> 00:31:36.450 Alright and then four hundred foot operations is actually 636 00:31:36.450 --> 00:31:37.970 very similar to multidrome. 637 00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:41.090 So if you have a detect and avoid 638 00:31:41.090 --> 00:31:44.370 system that's capable of detecting aircraft without ADS 639 00:31:44.370 --> 00:31:48.125 B that is a requirement but if you have that system D Drone 640 00:31:48.125 --> 00:31:52.805 Beyond would be an example and we work very closely with Axon 641 00:31:53.245 --> 00:31:56.565 to get that system integrated with ours. 642 00:31:56.845 --> 00:31:59.325 You can request the four hundred foot waiver then so you 643 00:31:59.325 --> 00:32:01.940 are not limited to any more to two hundred foot when you're 644 00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:04.300 doing beyond visualized site operations. 645 00:32:04.580 --> 00:32:07.220 So for part ninety one it's a similar streamlined process 646 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:10.700 again just there's a set of documentation 647 00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:15.500 and you email that to the FAA and you wait a month or two. 648 00:32:15.925 --> 00:32:18.485 Part one hundred seven, just like multidrone, 649 00:32:18.485 --> 00:32:22.165 not quite as streamlined so you'd end up submitting kind of 650 00:32:22.165 --> 00:32:24.805 a full application package and then submitting it in the 651 00:32:24.805 --> 00:32:28.685 portal and waiting maybe two to three months. 652 00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:33.430 All right. 653 00:32:34.430 --> 00:32:36.830 I'm just kind of looking at the questions that come in and I 654 00:32:36.830 --> 00:32:41.550 missed one for two slides ago so let me just kind of hit it live here. 655 00:32:41.550 --> 00:32:43.230 So kind of the question is, 656 00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:45.710 are these aerospace authorizations different than 657 00:32:45.710 --> 00:32:49.565 Lance? And the answer is yes. 658 00:32:49.565 --> 00:32:51.565 So well, yes, sort of. 659 00:32:51.565 --> 00:32:54.125 So LAANC has kind of two things. 660 00:32:54.125 --> 00:32:57.805 There's like the immediate as long as you're flying below 661 00:32:57.805 --> 00:33:00.210 the grid, you basically get immediate approval. 662 00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:01.410 But Lance also has, like, 663 00:33:01.410 --> 00:33:03.290 a further coordination 664 00:33:04.290 --> 00:33:05.970 version where so this would be, like, 665 00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:09.690 if you wanna fly in zero grids or above the the grids as well, 666 00:33:10.130 --> 00:33:12.730 and you have to go into DroneZone and submit it. 667 00:33:12.925 --> 00:33:15.645 That's that's the part one zero seven version here. 668 00:33:15.645 --> 00:33:17.805 So for part one zero seven, 669 00:33:17.805 --> 00:33:21.565 aerospace authorizations are similar whether you're public safety or not. 670 00:33:21.565 --> 00:33:23.325 If you wanna fly above the grid, essentially, 671 00:33:23.325 --> 00:33:26.725 you have to submit one of these manual aerospace authorizations. 672 00:33:26.930 --> 00:33:28.450 And then Part ninety one, 673 00:33:28.450 --> 00:33:31.650 LAANC doesn't apply to Part ninety one, like, at all. 674 00:33:31.650 --> 00:33:36.330 There's no construct of LAANC in Part ninety one, so 675 00:33:36.850 --> 00:33:40.725 that's why the waivers just include the ability to fly below the grids. 676 00:33:40.725 --> 00:33:42.805 And then if you want to fly above the grids you have to 677 00:33:42.805 --> 00:33:45.405 submit a CAPS request. 678 00:33:46.165 --> 00:33:49.365 So hopefully that answers that question. It's a good one. 679 00:33:49.365 --> 00:33:52.805 It's actually kind of a common question too so I'm glad this 680 00:33:52.805 --> 00:33:56.445 person asked like Lance just does not apply 681 00:33:56.460 --> 00:33:59.780 really to be on visual line of sight operations at all 682 00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:02.540 but it certainly doesn't apply to Part ninety one either. 683 00:34:02.540 --> 00:34:06.540 It's really only a system for visual line of sight Part one 684 00:34:06.540 --> 00:34:08.540 hundred seven operations. 685 00:34:08.540 --> 00:34:11.540 Everything else is going to go in these two portals here. 686 00:34:14.105 --> 00:34:14.825 All right. 687 00:34:14.825 --> 00:34:16.225 And then 688 00:34:16.745 --> 00:34:19.945 there is another question I think I'll hit it too. 689 00:34:19.945 --> 00:34:21.705 It's kind of relevant to this topic. 690 00:34:21.705 --> 00:34:25.505 So can we request multiple waivers on one application 691 00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:26.710 for Part ninety one, 692 00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:29.670 or does each waiver need to be its own application? 693 00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:33.150 I would do just one. 694 00:34:33.510 --> 00:34:35.510 When you make an application to the FAA, 695 00:34:35.510 --> 00:34:38.230 you're asking for kind of one waiver in a sense. 696 00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:41.710 You could ask for whatever you want in that waiver. 697 00:34:42.525 --> 00:34:45.565 You could ask to fly at one thousand feet or four hundred 698 00:34:45.565 --> 00:34:47.245 feet or two hundred feet or anything like that. 699 00:34:47.245 --> 00:34:51.005 But the streamlined waivers that we're kind of talking 700 00:34:51.005 --> 00:34:54.965 about here that get approved in a week or two or one month, 701 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.600 Those are limited to like the specific concepts here. 702 00:34:58.600 --> 00:35:02.760 Either you fly at two hundred feet with ADS B or you fly at 703 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.800 four hundred feet with DA system and so on. 704 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.785 So as long as you're asking for what these kind of standard waivers allow, 705 00:35:10.785 --> 00:35:12.785 then you'll get these waivers and these timelines. 706 00:35:12.785 --> 00:35:14.785 If you're asking for something outside of, like, 707 00:35:14.785 --> 00:35:18.385 the scope of what we're talking here, then the FAA has to do, 708 00:35:18.385 --> 00:35:21.265 like, their full kind of normal just review, 709 00:35:21.265 --> 00:35:22.985 lengthy review process. 710 00:35:24.010 --> 00:35:27.770 And the outcome of each request is typically just like 711 00:35:27.770 --> 00:35:30.850 one waiver that allows you to do 712 00:35:31.130 --> 00:35:32.850 XYZ. 713 00:35:36.010 --> 00:35:38.850 And maybe as a follow-up to 714 00:35:39.365 --> 00:35:41.445 yeah, let me add kind of one more thing to that. 715 00:35:41.445 --> 00:35:46.005 So, agencies, like, you can ask for more than one waiver, 716 00:35:46.005 --> 00:35:49.925 and that happens pretty commonly with the single drone 717 00:35:49.925 --> 00:35:51.885 to multi drone transition. 718 00:35:52.130 --> 00:35:55.890 So we always kind of recommend agencies start by getting a 719 00:35:55.890 --> 00:36:00.770 single drone waiver, and that's going to be kind of one signed approval. 720 00:36:00.770 --> 00:36:04.065 And then the multi drone waiver, once you request it, 721 00:36:04.065 --> 00:36:07.585 it will be another it'll be a new, like, separate approval. 722 00:36:07.585 --> 00:36:11.265 So you'd end up actually with two waivers and then you have 723 00:36:11.265 --> 00:36:12.865 to decide before you fly, like, 724 00:36:12.865 --> 00:36:15.585 which waiver am I flying under and comply with it. 725 00:36:15.585 --> 00:36:19.225 So maybe that was the other angle for that question. 726 00:36:23.380 --> 00:36:25.180 Okay, so 727 00:36:25.780 --> 00:36:28.340 kind of moving on to and this is still just in the other 728 00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:30.540 considerations category, 729 00:36:30.580 --> 00:36:33.460 I thought it would be worth putting this in here to just 730 00:36:33.460 --> 00:36:36.885 kind of get agencies thinking a little bit about this, 731 00:36:36.885 --> 00:36:39.925 is like what does the future look like for both of these and 732 00:36:39.925 --> 00:36:44.525 should that impact which type of waiver you get or not? 733 00:36:44.805 --> 00:36:46.645 So here's just kind of some thoughts on it. 734 00:36:46.645 --> 00:36:49.685 Again, there's kind of no wrong answer right now as long as you're 735 00:36:49.685 --> 00:36:51.020 eligible for them. 736 00:36:51.020 --> 00:36:53.980 But part one hundred eight kind of is on the horizon. 737 00:36:53.980 --> 00:36:55.740 We've we've you know, 738 00:36:55.740 --> 00:36:58.140 if you're you're curious about learning more about that, 739 00:36:58.140 --> 00:36:59.340 reach out to us. 740 00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:02.860 There's plenty of material out there as well kinda dissecting 741 00:37:02.860 --> 00:37:05.775 the NPRM and read the NPRM itself, 742 00:37:05.775 --> 00:37:06.815 definitely encourage that. 743 00:37:06.815 --> 00:37:10.415 But the NPRM does have a little bit of insight, right, 744 00:37:10.415 --> 00:37:14.095 into what's going to happen potentially with these two waivers. 745 00:37:14.095 --> 00:37:15.935 The rule was just proposed, 746 00:37:15.935 --> 00:37:18.095 it's not final yet so this could change, 747 00:37:18.095 --> 00:37:20.640 but for Part ninety one, 748 00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:25.840 the NPRM more or less proposed to leave Part ninety one alone. 749 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.400 Like we're going to let Part ninety one operations continue 750 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.360 as they always have. 751 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.880 That's a quote out of the NPRM. 752 00:37:32.775 --> 00:37:34.615 And then for Part one hundred seven, 753 00:37:34.615 --> 00:37:35.655 it's kind of the opposite. 754 00:37:35.655 --> 00:37:39.415 The FAA is proposing to amend one hundred seven to 755 00:37:39.415 --> 00:37:43.855 remove the ability to get Part one hundred seven BV loss waivers. 756 00:37:44.455 --> 00:37:48.575 Now we expect some kind of transition period so that 757 00:37:48.640 --> 00:37:51.440 operators have time to go from Part one hundred seven to Part 758 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:52.760 one hundred eight, 759 00:37:53.120 --> 00:37:56.000 but I think the most likely thing is Part one hundred seven 760 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.640 BVLS waivers are gonna go away eventually. They'll sunset. 761 00:38:01.215 --> 00:38:05.055 So Part ninety one might have a little bit more, you know, 762 00:38:05.055 --> 00:38:09.295 of a future proofness to it, but there's still, you know, 763 00:38:09.295 --> 00:38:10.175 the jury's still out. 764 00:38:10.175 --> 00:38:11.935 We have to see what the final rule says, 765 00:38:11.935 --> 00:38:13.655 and then we'll know for sure. 766 00:38:14.100 --> 00:38:17.980 So take that just into consideration. 767 00:38:18.020 --> 00:38:22.180 The other thing is I know some agencies out there are a little 768 00:38:22.180 --> 00:38:26.700 nervous about this self certification idea under Part ninety one. 769 00:38:27.075 --> 00:38:28.355 And whether you're nervous or not, 770 00:38:28.355 --> 00:38:31.515 if you're flying under Part ninety one, you're doing it. 771 00:38:32.035 --> 00:38:34.995 But if you read the Part one hundred eight kind of training 772 00:38:34.995 --> 00:38:37.755 and licensing requirements, 773 00:38:38.275 --> 00:38:40.640 I would say actually that Part one hundred eight has more in 774 00:38:40.640 --> 00:38:43.920 common with Part ninety one self certification than it does 775 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.120 with Part one hundred seven. 776 00:38:45.120 --> 00:38:48.320 So under Part one hundred eight, as proposed at least, 777 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.765 there's no pilot certificates, there's no tests, there's, 778 00:38:51.765 --> 00:38:55.125 nothing equivalent to the remote pilot 779 00:38:55.125 --> 00:38:58.325 certificate under one hundred seven. 780 00:38:58.325 --> 00:39:03.205 Instead, the FAA has a section on training and they 781 00:39:03.205 --> 00:39:06.160 would expect your training to cover certain topics, 782 00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:09.040 and the MPRN actually has a list of those topics right in there. 783 00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:12.560 There's a knowledge chunk and then a skills chunk. 784 00:39:12.560 --> 00:39:16.720 So you will be expected to know certain things, 785 00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:19.760 but the idea is to kind of put that on the operator to make 786 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.085 sure they're training their pilots and covering those things. 787 00:39:23.085 --> 00:39:27.085 So it's more of kind of a corporate training model 788 00:39:27.085 --> 00:39:29.605 than an FAA training model. 789 00:39:29.645 --> 00:39:32.765 And so I would kind of argue it has a little bit more in common 790 00:39:32.765 --> 00:39:35.045 with the self certification model 791 00:39:35.670 --> 00:39:39.590 and less part one hundred seven but again it's a proposed rule 792 00:39:39.590 --> 00:39:42.550 so we have to see what the final rule says and we'll kind 793 00:39:42.550 --> 00:39:45.670 of go from there but I guess I'm just kind of encouraging 794 00:39:45.670 --> 00:39:47.310 agencies 795 00:39:47.830 --> 00:39:52.885 to kind of think about just I need to have safe, 796 00:39:52.885 --> 00:39:56.005 proficient operators and I got to make sure I'm training them 797 00:39:56.005 --> 00:39:59.765 to do that and kind of not put so much weight on that remote 798 00:39:59.765 --> 00:40:05.030 pod certificate as, like, the thing that covers me. 799 00:40:07.950 --> 00:40:09.430 All right. 800 00:40:09.710 --> 00:40:12.590 So I'm going to kind of put this table and I'm just going 801 00:40:12.590 --> 00:40:13.550 to leave it up for a second. 802 00:40:13.550 --> 00:40:14.910 I don't want to rehash everything, 803 00:40:14.910 --> 00:40:18.935 but these webinars are recorded and then they'll be available afterwards. 804 00:40:18.935 --> 00:40:21.135 You can go back and replay this. 805 00:40:21.415 --> 00:40:25.495 This is just kind of a table summary of the similarities and 806 00:40:25.495 --> 00:40:28.975 differences between PART ninety one and one hundred seven that we just covered. 807 00:40:29.350 --> 00:40:32.550 And so if you're looking at this webinar later you can just 808 00:40:32.550 --> 00:40:36.750 kind of pause it and keep this slide up to read through it. 809 00:40:36.950 --> 00:40:39.110 But you know again overarching theme, 810 00:40:39.110 --> 00:40:40.950 more similarities than differences. 811 00:40:40.950 --> 00:40:43.965 Yes there are a couple kind of just technicalities and 812 00:40:43.965 --> 00:40:48.445 differences between the two, but they're very similar and 813 00:40:48.445 --> 00:40:50.605 you really can't go wrong at this point. 814 00:40:50.605 --> 00:40:53.565 But if you want just a way to think 815 00:40:53.565 --> 00:40:56.525 about it and keep it simple, go back to the entity thing. 816 00:40:56.525 --> 00:40:58.325 So if I'm a government entity, 817 00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:00.420 go part ninety one. 818 00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:02.500 If I'm not a government entity, 819 00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:04.700 I've got to fly a one hundred seven. 820 00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:09.660 All right. 821 00:41:11.005 --> 00:41:15.045 And that's kind of it for content wise. 822 00:41:16.845 --> 00:41:18.285 So, yeah, let's look. 823 00:41:18.285 --> 00:41:21.205 Let's see if there's any other questions here. 824 00:41:23.890 --> 00:41:27.490 And yeah, definitely feel free if you have questions, 825 00:41:27.490 --> 00:41:29.090 go ahead and throw them in there. 826 00:41:29.090 --> 00:41:30.290 We've got at least one here. 827 00:41:30.290 --> 00:41:34.610 So the question is how does the Partner Any one waiver apply to 828 00:41:34.610 --> 00:41:35.810 tribal governments? 829 00:41:35.810 --> 00:41:37.450 Is it the same 830 00:41:38.565 --> 00:41:39.685 or not? 831 00:41:39.685 --> 00:41:40.765 So 832 00:41:42.645 --> 00:41:45.525 I would, let's see, I'm just gonna go 833 00:41:45.525 --> 00:41:46.645 back one slide. 834 00:41:46.645 --> 00:41:50.885 It's really no different at the end of the day. 835 00:41:50.885 --> 00:41:52.790 So if you're a tribal government, 836 00:41:52.790 --> 00:41:55.950 you should still qualify for Part ninety one, 837 00:41:56.310 --> 00:41:58.590 kind of being a government entity. 838 00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:02.670 And then if you're not, if you're, you know, 839 00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:07.030 we've worked with like one customer I could think of that 840 00:42:07.030 --> 00:42:11.645 was part of kind of some tribal 841 00:42:11.645 --> 00:42:13.805 businesses but not government entity. 842 00:42:13.805 --> 00:42:16.605 So we ended up getting them a Part one hundred seven waiver instead. 843 00:42:16.605 --> 00:42:20.765 So I think the simplest answer is like this still applies just 844 00:42:20.765 --> 00:42:22.930 if you're part of tribal government you should be able 845 00:42:22.930 --> 00:42:24.050 to do Part ninety one. 846 00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:26.490 If not, do Part one hundred seven. 847 00:42:27.170 --> 00:42:30.130 It is on you to make that determination to be clear. 848 00:42:30.130 --> 00:42:31.130 So 849 00:42:31.730 --> 00:42:34.530 there's some FAA guidance out there. 850 00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:37.250 There's an advisory circular that kind of talks about public 851 00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:39.625 aircraft and references U. 852 00:42:39.625 --> 00:42:43.865 S. Code for who and who doesn't meet those qualifications. 853 00:42:43.865 --> 00:42:46.625 I would definitely encourage just reading those 854 00:42:46.905 --> 00:42:50.065 and then making that determination and moving forward. 855 00:42:50.600 --> 00:42:53.800 But yeah, just because you're tribal doesn't necessarily exclude you 856 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.520 from either one of these out the gate. 857 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:03.520 All right. 858 00:43:06.415 --> 00:43:09.175 I think that's it for questions. 859 00:43:09.295 --> 00:43:11.695 We're going to end a little bit early potentially today and 860 00:43:11.695 --> 00:43:13.815 give some people some time back. 861 00:43:14.495 --> 00:43:18.015 I'll throw kind of one thing out as we close and just got a 862 00:43:18.015 --> 00:43:19.415 couple extra minutes. 863 00:43:20.090 --> 00:43:23.530 If you're an agency out there and like you just kind of 864 00:43:23.530 --> 00:43:27.210 listen to my webinar and you're going I'm not sure if I have 865 00:43:27.210 --> 00:43:29.930 like you know I'm the responsible person I don't know 866 00:43:29.930 --> 00:43:31.570 if I have everything in place. 867 00:43:32.225 --> 00:43:36.305 So we we actually have now kind of a kind of like 868 00:43:36.305 --> 00:43:38.065 a checklist that we can give you. 869 00:43:38.065 --> 00:43:40.785 Just reach out. We can give you this checklist. 870 00:43:40.785 --> 00:43:43.265 And it goes through kind of the requirements, 871 00:43:43.265 --> 00:43:45.265 and really it's a lot of things we just talked about, 872 00:43:45.265 --> 00:43:47.225 but it's kind of in a checklist form. 873 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.640 So yeah, and we put this together to just help agencies 874 00:43:51.640 --> 00:43:55.560 self assess, like do I have everything in 875 00:43:55.560 --> 00:43:58.920 place that I should be per my waiver, 876 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.160 per the FAA requirements, and so on. 877 00:44:01.160 --> 00:44:04.035 So yeah it's just a two page checklist. 878 00:44:04.035 --> 00:44:06.355 It really just covers all the requirements in your waiver 879 00:44:06.355 --> 00:44:08.115 that you should be doing already. 880 00:44:08.115 --> 00:44:12.795 But if you'd like it in a nice kind of checklist format we can 881 00:44:12.915 --> 00:44:15.755 get that to you right away if you just reach out. 882 00:44:19.530 --> 00:44:22.290 A final question rolling in, 883 00:44:22.730 --> 00:44:23.690 I think surgeons, 884 00:44:23.690 --> 00:44:26.690 so how far out from Part one hundred eight are we? 885 00:44:27.530 --> 00:44:29.090 I don't know. 886 00:44:29.290 --> 00:44:30.810 It's hard to predict. 887 00:44:30.810 --> 00:44:33.605 It's moving through its processes. 888 00:44:33.605 --> 00:44:36.485 We kinda keep getting updates that it's going from this 889 00:44:36.485 --> 00:44:39.565 office to the next and just working through the process. 890 00:44:40.565 --> 00:44:42.805 You know, maybe by the end of the year, 891 00:44:42.805 --> 00:44:45.285 we'll have a a published rule, 892 00:44:45.285 --> 00:44:47.930 but do keep in mind just when the when the rule gets 893 00:44:47.930 --> 00:44:51.050 published, there's likely to be some kind of transition period, 894 00:44:51.050 --> 00:44:52.930 maybe a year, 895 00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:54.730 eighteen months. 896 00:44:54.730 --> 00:44:55.930 We'll see what it says. 897 00:44:55.930 --> 00:44:57.130 But but, yeah, 898 00:44:57.130 --> 00:45:00.255 the the rule will get published hopefully this year, 899 00:45:00.255 --> 00:45:02.415 and then there'll be kind of a transition period where 900 00:45:02.415 --> 00:45:06.095 everybody will be reading the rule and getting their act together. 901 00:45:06.095 --> 00:45:07.135 That will be, you know, 902 00:45:07.135 --> 00:45:09.855 Skydio as well to make sure our drones meet the requirements, 903 00:45:09.855 --> 00:45:12.735 and then we'll all kinda transition into part one zero 904 00:45:12.735 --> 00:45:15.440 eight, or we'll continue, you know, 905 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.080 operating under part ninety one as long as that's still an option. 906 00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:22.040 So good question. Hard to predict. 907 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:23.640 Hopefully soon. 908 00:45:27.195 --> 00:45:28.635 Okay, no more questions. 909 00:45:28.635 --> 00:45:31.595 Let's just call it early, give everybody some time back. 910 00:45:31.595 --> 00:45:35.355 So thanks again though for joining the webinar and don't 911 00:45:35.355 --> 00:45:38.155 forget the previous webinars are all available. 912 00:45:38.155 --> 00:45:39.835 You can go back and watch them at any time. 913 00:45:39.835 --> 00:45:42.526 They're gonna all be in the same place in addition to this 914 00:45:42.526 --> 00:45:44.366 episode nine once we get it up. 915 00:45:44.366 --> 00:45:46.446 So thanks everybody for the time, 916 00:45:46.446 --> 00:45:47.566 and we'll see you on the next one. 917 00:45:47.566 --> 00:45:48.806 Stay safe.